Variant Unlock: Redeemer Fanatic - UNLOCKED

A prediction by Foote, a few months ago.

It is not:

Have Apostate kill Fanatic with Armor of Resurrection out.  (had this happen twice).  Apostate had ALL relics out.

Nor is it just losing to Apostate with Fanatic in the party.

I had Nightmist, Argent Adept and Fanatic in Tomb of Anubis

Just had Apostate land the Killing Blow to Fanatic with the card 'Fallen Angel' and then won, didn't unlock the variant. Debating if it's worth trying the same thing but losing to Apostate afterwards? I'm not sure if there's any specific enviornment to do this on, but I went with Relam of Discord.

I just had Apostate incap Fanatic using Condemnation while Absolution was out.  Then went on to win the fight.  No unlock.  We were fighting in Megaopolis, with Visionary, Nightmist, AA, and Grampa Legacy as backup.

Tried dealing all three types of Absolution damage to Condemnation.

Destroyed Condemnation with Absolution.

Defeated Apostate using Wrathful Retribution.

All in Realm of Discord. No unlocks.

Going to try dealing all three Absolution damage types to Apostate.

Tried letting Apostate ko Fanatic with damage redirected by Divine Sacrifice. 

Was in Megalopolis, Absolution and Condemnation both in play. Didn't work. 

Does Apostate's deck have equipment destruction?

Perhaps getting an imp pilferer to destroy Absolution?  (Apocolypse can't as Absolution is a relic)

Apostate. Dark Visionary, Wraith, Fanatic. Dinosaur Land.

I was thinking along the same lines, tried to have Imps break Absolution. Went on to win the game. Didn't get the variant. About to try the same thing again and lose. Probably gonna try to break Absolution and lose the game in the same round.

On the plus side, setting up these situations is so much quicker with Dark Visionary.

Absolution got broken in the card Critical Multiplier in Parses's deck.  In it you see Fanatic trying to hit Citizen Truth when it breaks.  

I tried getting both Absoultion and the Aegis out, then getting Apostate to knock Fanatic to 0 health, followed by her defeating him with Wrathful Retribution, after she was reset to 10 health. No unlock. (I was in Megalopolis and had Legacy and Visionary as my other heroes.

Going to try stopping Apocalypse with End of Days, because why not.

After rereading her bio, I suspect you may need Apostate to defeat her, then have a rematch where she defeats him.  Thus redeeming herself.  Haven't been able to test yet because work and sleep seem to be "requirements" for some reason.  If someone hasn't proven me wrong by this evening, I'll let you all know what happens.

Either way, I suspect this will be a multistage thing.

I just tried having Apostate wipe my team, then pressing try again. Had Fanatic play first turn Prayer of Desperation, because why not? Beat Apostate, no dice. Was at Megalopolis.

Tried my theory.  Apostate finished of Fanatic, I won that match overall.  Then fought again, had Fanatic take him out using her sword.  No unlock.

Used Fanatic, old Legacy, ss Tachyon, Tempest, and Argent Adept.  Realm of Discord.

New idea: Have Apostate incap Fanatic on his flip side?

Edit to add: Just tried it, no dice. (Maybe with Condemnation or some other variable, though?)

Tried making Apostate discard Condemnation as a result of his flip effect (delivering the hit that flipped him with Absolution. didn't work. 

Haven't tried it with the flip effect back to his front side.

I did, and nope. He flipped once and destroyed his periapt of woe, then flipped again and destroyed condemnation, but Ra ended up getting the kill, right before apocalypse would have triggered.

I wondered if having the quit the game with Fanatic would work, since according to the lore, in her first battle with Apostate, she actually left the fight, didn't even finish it until later. I started a game against Apostate with Fanatic in it, didn't use the restart button, I just quit out and went back to the main menu and set it up again, no unlock there either.

Here's a few things I've tried (none of which worked, but all of which were fun):

1) Killing Apostate with Wrathful Retribution from 1 HP. 

2) Killing myself with Sacrosanct Martyr, coming back with Aegis, and killing Apostate with the Radiant damage. 

and my personal favorite

3) Killing Apostate by Final Diving Condemnation at him. 

None of those really go with the story. I'm going to try killing him with Wrathful Retribution on the same turn I come back with Aegis. 

Edit:  I tried letting Apostate kill Fanatic on his flipped side. I returned with Aegis then killed him in the same round with Wrathful Retribution but no unlock. 

I went poring through the story challenges forum, looking for everything I could find related to Fanatic, here's what I found:

ALL EYES ON ME: Use Divine Sacrifice on 3 Blade Battalions as Fanatic.
DIVINE EXECUTIONER: Destroy the Seer using Final Dive as Fanatic.
THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT: have Fanatic deal Infernal damage to another hero.
JUDGE AND JURY: Reduce Apostate to 0 or fewer HP using Wrathful Retribution without him every flipping as Fanatic.

Sadly, I don't know who the seer is, he probably isn't in the video game yet.

The Seer is Fnatic's mini-Nemsis in Vengeance, so isn't in them game yet.

So there's this from Redeemer Fanatic's bio:

After Fanatic was confronted by the deceiver, Apostate, she had to regroup. She spent three entire days sequestered in the bell tower of a monastery in prayer and meditation, not stopping to eat or sleep. Finally, she emerged from her requiescence, refreshed in the knowledge of her steadfast righteousness.

Fanatic has armed herself against the lies and corruption of Apostate. She stands prepared to fight by faith alone - not allowing herself to be distracted by the clamor and deceit of the world and her enemies!

Maybe she needs to spend a certain number of turns doing nothing after a condition has been met?  I'm thinking probably three turns after Apostate has flipped, then she needs to defeat him.

Got Apostate to flip. Killed him with Wrathful with both Absolution and Aegis in play. No unlock.

What hero team in the lore defeated Apostate? Was fanatic even there? I know she fled but did she come back in time?  

3 days she prayed/meditated.

Anybody tried playing Prayer of Desperation multiple turns in a row?

I tried four things last night that I thought had some logic, but none of them worked.  They were all against Apostate but in three different environments (so hopefully the environment doesn't matter).

1)  I used Prayer of Desperation when I was truly desperate (i.e., when it was the only card in my hand so I drew the full six cards).

2)  I reduced Apostate to zero HP on his flipped side with the Melee damage of Exorcism.  He ate his last Relic, flipped, and I finished him off with the Radiant damage from Exorcism.

3)  Basically the same thing as above, but I played Smite the Transgressor (since Apostate is in the art) and flipped him with Exorcism, then finished him with Absolution.

4)  I defeated Apostate with a ton of damage from Divine Focus.  I don't think that Fanatic even played a card except for Divine Focus.  Everything else was discard to do probably 40-50 damage with buffs.

Handelabra made a facebook post, "This is a redemption story. In order to be redeemed, one must have fallen."

The only card with "Fallen" in the title is Apostate's Fallen Angel, which is a one-shot that deals area damage and heals relics.  It has a picture of Apostate holding Absolution, while Fanatic looks distraught in the background.

Maybe incap her with Fallen Angel?  Or at least hit her with it before incapping her?

Here's what I just tried with no unlock success:

Fanatic has Aegis out.  Apostate incapped her with Fallen Angel.  On Fanatic's subsequent turn, she played Prayer of Desperation.  On the turn after that, she finished off Apostate who was on his flipped side.  Maybe I'm making it too complicated?

Final Dive with her being the only valid target to take out?

You can't Final Dive character cards.

I thought that was an Aegis of Resurrection reference, but people have tried that, right? Being res'd then beating Apostate?

Edit: oh yeah, right above me.

Just out of curiosity, has anybody heard of ANYBODY unlocking the Redeemer yet?  It's nice that he devs threw us a bone with that hint, but I haven't heard of anybody getting her at all yet, so we don't really have much to start with besides the obvious.

Handelabra has typically posted or announced someone got an unlock.   So far only Agent of Gloom Spite, DW Nightmist, and Dark Visionary have been accomplished.  

I think Fanatic needs to be incapped in a specific way

I still think that Absolution and Condemnation both need to be out.  I tried incapping Fanatic with Fallen Angel while both swords were present, but no luck.

On the other board, speculation right now is -

Apostate flipped

Fanatic killed and revived with Aegis, possibly with Apostate's Fallen Angel attack, possibly with Divine Sacrifice active

Prayer of Desperation for 3 turns (if this is right, you need some help from some combination of Visionary, Argent, and Tempest)

Kill Apostate with Absolution

Killing Apostate w/out Absolution appears to fail, as does an unflipped Apostate. Some speculation you need to requip Aegis, but it seems unlikely, and it's possible that the Prayer duration is either wrong or that just passing turns suffices.

Combinations of the above have unlocked Fanatic.

Sequence that got it unlocked for me, but I'm convinced there's false steps:

Apostate, Legacy, Argent Adept, Visionary, Fanatic, Tempest,  Megalopolis (no alts)

Location not relevant. Heroes other than Fanatic not relevant.

Play Undaunted, Absolution, Aegis. Order does not matter.

Accumulate Divine Sacrifice and both Prayers

Flip Apostate, dealing the last blow to flip him with Absolution

Manipulate the deck to get Fallen Angel on top and Fanatic sufficiently weak

Play Divine Sacrifice, taking the damage with Fanatic until she runs out of hp and triggers her Aegis

Pass three turns playing Prayer. You'll need to put one back on top of her deck and force a draw off her turn.

Keep Apostate beat up during this process.

When she's done praying, play Aegis and take Apostate down with Absolution

Things I believe to be critical:

Apostate must be flipped
The final blow in the fight must happen with Absolution

Undaunted must be in play.

Be curious what the final conditions turn out to be, and how much of this was just dancing :)

Thanks to the folks on the Handelabra boards for getting me this far...

No Unlock, but here's how it went

Legacy, Agrent, D. Visonary, Tempest, Fanatic

In Megalopolis

Flipped Apostate then incapped Fanatic with his card damage, resurrected with Aegis.

Did nothing for 3 rounds with Fanatic (the rest of the team fought off the mounds of relics that were showing up)

Killed Apostate with Absolution

if you got the unlock did you post a picture to Handelabra over Twitter,Facebook, or Google+?

Wasn't the first or even the second. I know the first didn't want to post, but that makes it not mine.

Fair enough.  You could still try to be the first to nail down the unlock steps.  

I haven't found the energy to try to play Prayer of Desperation three times in a row, so I've been trying something a little more simple:

Apostate has to incapacitate Fanatic.  She resurrects with Aegis.  She doesn't deal damage for 3 turns.  She destroys him on the 4th turn.  

I had tried before with no unlock, but then realized that she had been incapacitated by environment damage.  It's possible that Undaunted must be in play or that the source of the damage you destroy Apostate with matters.

I didn't play Prayer of Desperation three times and unlocked her. I did play it twice, but I don't even think the second time was necessary (though that's just a guess).

I did something very similar to your theory, but I did have Undaunted in play. The source of my final damage was Absolution dealing radiant damage.

Others have said they unlocked her even though the environment took her down originally, so the key difference between what you tried and success may indeed be Undaunted.

EDIT: to add photo in case that helps people.

Glad to see some of the steps dropping away :) Three failed unlock attempts meant that I was rubbing a lot of magic rocks along the way, just in case they were the difference.

Since I'm in no rush, I've been starting with a minimalist approach and I'm adding in more variables as I go in an attempt to find the actual conditions. I tried killing Apostate with Undaunted in play with Absolution in a game in which Aegis has triggered. That didn't work. Next I'll try the same thing with taking a turn to do Prayer of Desperation in between. 

My current theory is something like "Fanatic defeats Apostate with Undaunted in play in a game in which she has been brought back by Aegis of Resurrection. Prayer of Desperation must be played after she has come back to life."

For those that got the unlocks:  Was Apostate flipped or not?  HAD he flipped during the game?  Not sure if it matters, just checking for patterns.