I don't think so, mainly because time shenangins aren't exactly what Oblivaeon is known for.
We won't see any of the major forces from the RPG as Scions (as in if the team introduces a new immensley powerful villain, they won't have that villain have later become a scion for Oblivaeon) because the RPG timeline didn't exist until Oblivaeon was defeated and Oblivaeon can't act in times after he has been defeated.
Essentially, I don't think Oblivaeon is paradox proof like La Commodora, so since she was lost mid-fight with him, he didn't have the "time" to go and recruit her in his weakened state, and if he was going to do something like that, he would have gotten her ealier so she couldn't hit him that hard and add to his defeat.
I'm not saying that OblivAeon himself timetraveled to get her.
I'm saying she's outside of time, like Chrono Ranger was. Just because she entered during the OblivAeon fight doesn't mean she's only there "after" the OblivAeon fight, because she's in a place where terms like "after" just don't apply.
We already know that Tim Cosing was trapped somewhere outside of time and space, so we know that it's something OblivAeon can do.
So what I'm saying is, by knocking herself outside of time, she put herself in a place where OblivAeon could have, in theory, come across her much earlier in OblivAeon's personal timeline.
Now, the dialogue with the traitor Scion just plain doesn't sound like Maria Helena, so I'm honestly not inclined to think she actually is Tim Cosing. I just think it's a possibility and that Voss is perhaps too obvious a candidate, so I wanted it on the record just in case.
I feel like Maria Helena Is an out-there guess, so I’m going to provide a few more just for fun. FYI, they all start with R because Q and something before SA is hard to find, and I’m not original enough to come up with a name after PR
Red Note: If Dark Visionary’s spirit can be a Scion, why can’t the Dark Conductor? (However, Argent still has problems with him in Tactics I think, so...)
Reincarnate: Apostate has taken a new body and accepted Oblivaeon’s call. Fits well with his power of taking control of corpses after he kills them (Idk, again, he shows up afterwards, but...)
(I was about to say how cool would it be if the Celestial Tribunal was a Scion, because I was looking for potential scions in evil heroes, villains, AND environments.)
Reflection: Glamour seems like an awesome scion, but I can’t tell how Oblivaeon could’ve found her outside time and space.
Renegade sounds like an awesome name for the traitor Scion, but I think Chrono-Ranger dons that name in Tactics. I really want that to be it though.
Again, completely random ideas, just for fun and covering my bases so I may win once Oblivaeon ships.
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I feel like Maria Helena Is an out-there guess, so I’m going to provide a few more just for fun. FYI, they all start with R because Q and something before SA is hard to find, and I’m not original enough to come up with a name after PR
Yeah, I almost dubbed my Maria Helena guess as "Quartermaster" because it's the only vaguely naval/piratey title I could think of with Q.
I was going to point that out until I realized they probably already figured that out since they said "I was about to..." and put that part in parentheses.
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I think Voss seems like a good guess. It would explain why we have not gotten a Letter Page about him yet. Considering the other three initial villians were covered within the first 10 episodes just seems odd that we have went this long without dedicating an episode about him. Tempest is also the only non-core hero we have not talked about yet. We have had episodes on characters that are not even out yet, it seems like they are intentionally holding these two back for some reason.
I think Voss seems like a good guess. It would explain why we have not gotten a Letter Page about him yet. Considering the other three initial villians were covered within the first 10 episodes just seems odd that we have went this long without dedicating an episode about him. Tempest is also the only non-core hero we have not talked about yet. We have had episodes on characters that are not even out yet, it seems like they are intentionally holding these two back for some reason.
As of the Urban Settings episode, it sounded like there will be a Captain Cosmic/Infinitor episode set coming up soonish before Tempest/Voss, right? Did I hear that correctly? Then Tempest would close out the Prime Wardens block after that, I would think. But scheduling in all these Not Closing Out the Prime Wardens Block Block does indeed seem to point towards pushing off the Hypothetical Voss Reveal to closer to release.
Aside: I mistyped it as Time Wardens and that's now the name of the Prog Rock group La Comodora and Chrono-ranger will co-front.
I think Iron Legacy is unlikely. It doesn't fit really, and Oblivaeon had other uses for the Iron Legacy Timeline and therefore Iron Legacy. La Commodora stopped that during the fight, erasing that timeline, and Oblivaeon couldn't have grabbed Iron Legacy from outside time and space until after that. Oblivaeon's own timeline seems inviolable, so the logic doesn't pan out for me. He would have known the timeline was erased before La Commodora ruined his plans by erasing that timeline and that doesn't work.
It also doesn't fit his goals and motives. Iron Legacy is evil, but his basic goal remains to protect and save the world - his thing is being absolutely ruthless and cruel in doing so. Oblivaeon wants to destroy everything; I don't think Iron Legacy's unyielding certainty would bend to serve that, even as a ploy.
It also doesn't fit his goals and motives. Iron Legacy is evil, but his basic goal remains to protect and save the world - his thing is being absolutely ruthless and cruel in doing so. Oblivaeon wants to destroy everything; I don't think Iron Legacy's unyielding certainty would bend to serve that, even as a ploy.
Well,there's a chance he could be. Apocalypse, with all his pwoer, corrupts mutants to be his Horsemen. Thier power amps up, and their personality changes. They start to lose that empathy, and depending on which Horseman, certain restrictions. So, though Iron Legacy was Lawful Evil, he can be changed so that his ruthless oprder transists to something more relentless and destructive.
Or, the last Scion can be me.
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
In the Blood Magic episode of the Letters Page last week, I think Christopher and Adam said Lifeline got called out on his use of blood magic by Slamara. It's a long shot, but what if she's the last Scion? She sees things to come, after all...
"In a dark future where [REDACTED] patrols and judges the world with an iron fist, the Freedom Six formed from the remnants of the Freedom Five, whose time had long since past."
So is this confirmation that Iron Legacy is [REDACTED], or is Christopher just throwing us a red herring?
I'm half tempted to get it just for the Freedom Six promos, but then again, now that I have the foil collection, I'm honestly not sure if I even want to keep the original promos I have.
There's also at least one copy-paste error on that page (the first paragraph of the description is for Wrath of the Cosmos).That bundle would be a pretty good deal for anyone who somehow had Wrath of the Cosmis but was still missing Shattered Timelines.
Im actually sad they never did a deal to sell just the box for the combined shatter timelines/Wraith of Cosmos sets. My completionist DNA aches knowing I don’t have one box, even though in a few short months they will all be obsolute.
So, I mentioned this to Chaosmancer a few days ago, but I figure that I might put it here for posterity: what if it's Parse?
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But there is no card for UXM266, and we know it isn't Ambuscade.
The idea of it being Parse could potentially work. As we see on her foil incap art, her connection with Oblivaeon is fairly direct, and her ability to see the flaws and weaknesses and exploit them could be something that Oblivaeon wants to exploit himself.
We see her analyzing Oblivaeon early on in her Fugue State Incap art, but we haven't seen or heard of them fighting.
So, I mentioned this to Chaosmancer a few days ago, but I figure that I might put it here for posterity: what if it's Parse?
Check out the quote on the bottom of my posts
But there is no card for UXM266, and we know it isn't Ambuscade. The idea of it being Parse could potentially work. As we see on her foil incap art, her connection with Oblivaeon is fairly direct, and her ability to see the flaws and weaknesses and exploit them could be something that Oblivaeon wants to exploit himself. We see her analyzing Oblivaeon early on in her Fugue State Incap art, but we haven't seen or heard of them fighting.
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I never considered a hero being the last scion. I'd love it to be somone like Young Legacy, maybe being corrupted, or Nightmist? AFter using her power to it's extet she's left in a weakened state, only to be taken advantage of, and brainwashed.
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
If a hero would be resurrected by the Rites of Revival from the Temple of Zhu Long, that hero character card is instead returned to the box, making it available to be played later in the game. Any reward cards under that hero card are immediately put into the hand of the player who controlled that hero. However... (Begin REDACTED block)
This seems to imply [REDACTED] either interferes with the players' ability to resurrect heroes OR it interferes with reward cards in some manner. I'm not sure either Voss or Parse would fit either of those...
So, here's an interesting tidbit:On the recently-released OblivAeon rulebook, there's a passage describing a strange interaction in regards to the [REDACTED] scion:If a hero would be resurrected by the Rites of Revival from the Temple of Zhu Long, that hero character card is instead returned to the box, making it available to be played later in the game. Any reward cards under that hero card are immediately put into the hand of the player who controlled that hero. However... (Begin REDACTED block)This seems to imply [REDACTED] either interferes with the players' ability to resurrect heroes OR it interferes with reward cards in some manner. I'm not sure either Voss or Parse would fit either of those...
The Profane Zealot... on the otherhand, does do stuff with targets in the trash! I AM ZE LAST SCION!
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
There is one more hint no one's pointed out yet: the text box. You can just barely see the box that contains the name under the top of the *REDACTED* black box. It's all the way over on the left, but those boxes are centered. This means that the 10th scion's full name is long, like Nixious the Chosen and Borr the Unstable.
Of course, there could be any old apellation on there. "Rutabaga the Relentless" or whatever. But it's not going to be a simple name.
So then if Oblivaeon wants only nothingness aside from himself, then what does he plan to do with his Scions after the Multiverse's destruction?
" Ever had those days where you have amazing luck,
everything goes right, and you feel like the king of the world...
....And then you wake up?"
-Someone special, 2012
I'd suggest that being imbued directly with OblivAeon's power also comes with a bit of mind control and thus are okay with being destroyed, but the Last Scion seems to be able to act against him. Maybe most see the futility in opposing him, and thus would rather be on the winning side at the end, hoping that their own demise will at least be quick and painless...
Or maybe being imbued directly with OblivAeon's power means OblivAeon considers them part of himself, so even if they're still around after the world ends, OblivAeon would technically still have nothingness aside from himself.
I don't think so, mainly because time shenangins aren't exactly what Oblivaeon is known for.
We won't see any of the major forces from the RPG as Scions (as in if the team introduces a new immensley powerful villain, they won't have that villain have later become a scion for Oblivaeon) because the RPG timeline didn't exist until Oblivaeon was defeated and Oblivaeon can't act in times after he has been defeated.
Essentially, I don't think Oblivaeon is paradox proof like La Commodora, so since she was lost mid-fight with him, he didn't have the "time" to go and recruit her in his weakened state, and if he was going to do something like that, he would have gotten her ealier so she couldn't hit him that hard and add to his defeat.
It just causes too many time shenangins
I'm not saying that OblivAeon himself timetraveled to get her.
I'm saying she's outside of time, like Chrono Ranger was. Just because she entered during the OblivAeon fight doesn't mean she's only there "after" the OblivAeon fight, because she's in a place where terms like "after" just don't apply.
We already know that Tim Cosing was trapped somewhere outside of time and space, so we know that it's something OblivAeon can do.
So what I'm saying is, by knocking herself outside of time, she put herself in a place where OblivAeon could have, in theory, come across her much earlier in OblivAeon's personal timeline.
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Now, the dialogue with the traitor Scion just plain doesn't sound like Maria Helena, so I'm honestly not inclined to think she actually is Tim Cosing. I just think it's a possibility and that Voss is perhaps too obvious a candidate, so I wanted it on the record just in case.
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I feel like Maria Helena Is an out-there guess, so I’m going to provide a few more just for fun. FYI, they all start with R because Q and something before SA is hard to find, and I’m not original enough to come up with a name after PR
Red Note: If Dark Visionary’s spirit can be a Scion, why can’t the Dark Conductor? (However, Argent still has problems with him in Tactics I think, so...)
Reincarnate: Apostate has taken a new body and accepted Oblivaeon’s call. Fits well with his power of taking control of corpses after he kills them (Idk, again, he shows up afterwards, but...)
(I was about to say how cool would it be if the Celestial Tribunal was a Scion, because I was looking for potential scions in evil heroes, villains, AND environments.)
Reflection: Glamour seems like an awesome scion, but I can’t tell how Oblivaeon could’ve found her outside time and space.
Renegade sounds like an awesome name for the traitor Scion, but I think Chrono-Ranger dons that name in Tactics. I really want that to be it though.
Again, completely random ideas, just for fun and covering my bases so I may win once Oblivaeon ships.
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Total off the wall guess but what about S'Sdairi the gladiator ? She's an alien , her name fits and the coliseum is outside space and time
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Lord Flash Fire - The Celestial Tribunal did come back as a Scion - Sanction ;).
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I was going to point that out until I realized they probably already figured that out since they said "I was about to..." and put that part in parentheses.
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I think Voss seems like a good guess. It would explain why we have not gotten a Letter Page about him yet. Considering the other three initial villians were covered within the first 10 episodes just seems odd that we have went this long without dedicating an episode about him. Tempest is also the only non-core hero we have not talked about yet. We have had episodes on characters that are not even out yet, it seems like they are intentionally holding these two back for some reason.
As of the Urban Settings episode, it sounded like there will be a Captain Cosmic/Infinitor episode set coming up soonish before Tempest/Voss, right? Did I hear that correctly? Then Tempest would close out the Prime Wardens block after that, I would think. But scheduling in all these Not Closing Out the Prime Wardens Block Block does indeed seem to point towards pushing off the Hypothetical Voss Reveal to closer to release.
Aside: I mistyped it as Time Wardens and that's now the name of the Prog Rock group La Comodora and Chrono-ranger will co-front.
Where were we on the possibility of the last Scion being Iron Legacy?
I AM THE LAST SCION!
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Or, just tell me about your day
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I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
I think Iron Legacy is unlikely. It doesn't fit really, and Oblivaeon had other uses for the Iron Legacy Timeline and therefore Iron Legacy. La Commodora stopped that during the fight, erasing that timeline, and Oblivaeon couldn't have grabbed Iron Legacy from outside time and space until after that. Oblivaeon's own timeline seems inviolable, so the logic doesn't pan out for me. He would have known the timeline was erased before La Commodora ruined his plans by erasing that timeline and that doesn't work.
It also doesn't fit his goals and motives. Iron Legacy is evil, but his basic goal remains to protect and save the world - his thing is being absolutely ruthless and cruel in doing so. Oblivaeon wants to destroy everything; I don't think Iron Legacy's unyielding certainty would bend to serve that, even as a ploy.
Well,there's a chance he could be. Apocalypse, with all his pwoer, corrupts mutants to be his Horsemen. Thier power amps up, and their personality changes. They start to lose that empathy, and depending on which Horseman, certain restrictions. So, though Iron Legacy was Lawful Evil, he can be changed so that his ruthless oprder transists to something more relentless and destructive.
Or, the last Scion can be me.
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
In the Blood Magic episode of the Letters Page last week, I think Christopher and Adam said Lifeline got called out on his use of blood magic by Slamara. It's a long shot, but what if she's the last Scion? She sees things to come, after all...
Good thought - and the Enclave meets the "beyond time and space" criterion as it lives in its own little pocket dimension.
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"In a dark future where [REDACTED] patrols and judges the world with an iron fist, the Freedom Six formed from the remnants of the Freedom Five, whose time had long since past."
So is this confirmation that Iron Legacy is [REDACTED], or is Christopher just throwing us a red herring?
I think it's just so any newcomers to the set still get a surprise when they find out about Iron Legacy...
There's also at least one copy-paste error on that page (the first paragraph of the description is for Wrath of the Cosmos).
That bundle would be a pretty good deal for anyone who somehow had Wrath of the Cosmis but was still missing Shattered Timelines.
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I'm half tempted to get it just for the Freedom Six promos, but then again, now that I have the foil collection, I'm honestly not sure if I even want to keep the original promos I have.
Im actually sad they never did a deal to sell just the box for the combined shatter timelines/Wraith of Cosmos sets. My completionist DNA aches knowing I don’t have one box, even though in a few short months they will all be obsolute.
So, I mentioned this to Chaosmancer a few days ago, but I figure that I might put it here for posterity: what if it's Parse?
Check out the quote on the bottom of my posts
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
But there is no card for UXM266, and we know it isn't Ambuscade.
The idea of it being Parse could potentially work. As we see on her foil incap art, her connection with Oblivaeon is fairly direct, and her ability to see the flaws and weaknesses and exploit them could be something that Oblivaeon wants to exploit himself.
We see her analyzing Oblivaeon early on in her Fugue State Incap art, but we haven't seen or heard of them fighting.
Except that Scion's Aid describes the Scion as smirking and smug, which doesn't sound like Parse at all.
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AH HA! That's where you are wrong. I'mm just invisible! MWHAHAHAHA!
I never considered a hero being the last scion. I'd love it to be somone like Young Legacy, maybe being corrupted, or Nightmist? AFter using her power to it's extet she's left in a weakened state, only to be taken advantage of, and brainwashed.
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
Do we really know that much about Parse's personality as to dismiss that? Particularly after going into the Fugue State?
So, here's an interesting tidbit:
On the recently-released OblivAeon rulebook, there's a passage describing a strange interaction in regards to the [REDACTED] scion:
If a hero would be resurrected by the Rites of Revival from the Temple of Zhu Long, that hero character card is instead returned to the box, making it available to be played later in the game. Any reward cards under that hero card are immediately put into the hand of the player who controlled that hero. However... (Begin REDACTED block)
This seems to imply [REDACTED] either interferes with the players' ability to resurrect heroes OR it interferes with reward cards in some manner. I'm not sure either Voss or Parse would fit either of those...
The Profane Zealot... on the otherhand, does do stuff with targets in the trash! I AM ZE LAST SCION!
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
Will the real last Scion please stand up...
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Coleslaw doesn't come alphabetically before Progeny.
But potato salad does...
Quole-Slaw does!
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
Quole-Slaw the last Slawonian went with the other Endlings to that strange pocket dimension
That's okay, I forgot it's actually between Progeny and Sanction anyway. c.c;
...Rutabaga. The last Scion is a rutabaga.
There is one more hint no one's pointed out yet: the text box. You can just barely see the box that contains the name under the top of the *REDACTED* black box. It's all the way over on the left, but those boxes are centered. This means that the 10th scion's full name is long, like Nixious the Chosen and Borr the Unstable.
Of course, there could be any old apellation on there. "Rutabaga the Relentless" or whatever. But it's not going to be a simple name.
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are you implying the Green Grocer is the last scion?
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
Depends, are you the Green Grosser? ;)
I'm not, but the best name for the Scion Green Grocer has to be the Vegemighty!
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
Okay so, I know I'm late, but what about orbo as the scion.
His name is Sephiroth but his friends call him Sephie.
Oooh.... that’s a wicked idea! What better way to destroy the world with a world!
I THOUGHT I was the the last Scion but it's actually .....
So then if Oblivaeon wants only nothingness aside from himself, then what does he plan to do with his Scions after the Multiverse's destruction?
" Ever had those days where you have amazing luck,
everything goes right, and you feel like the king of the world...
....And then you wake up?"
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I'd suggest that being imbued directly with OblivAeon's power also comes with a bit of mind control and thus are okay with being destroyed, but the Last Scion seems to be able to act against him. Maybe most see the futility in opposing him, and thus would rather be on the winning side at the end, hoping that their own demise will at least be quick and painless...
Or maybe being imbued directly with OblivAeon's power means OblivAeon considers them part of himself, so even if they're still around after the world ends, OblivAeon would technically still have nothingness aside from himself.
Why does oblivaeon only want nothing aside from himself anyways?
His name is Sephiroth but his friends call him Sephie.
I think they may have mentioned something in the Wager Master episode of the Letters Page, but I can't remember.
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