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Ep 47 of The Letters Page discussion- Cosmic Contest & Contest winner

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Spiff wrote:

 

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In the Question section they do describe the environment they fight in.  As to the agreement part it doesn’t seem like any hero or villain necessarily agrees to this they were just forced into it.  

 

I hate to say it, but that's a little lame then.  They're saying that Legacy agreed to beat the tar out of another hero just because a space alien told him to, with no other motivation than that?  I don't think I'll bother to listen through to the end of this one. :(

 

They do actually talk about Legacy trying to be reassuring to his first round opponet that this is strange circumstances they have been thrown into and they must fight but he still respects her....

 

And then Fanatic hits him right in the face cause she is fine with this circumstance.

 

So people do react differently to the cirsumstances, the Chairman trying to bow out gracefully is another example.


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Spiff wrote:

 

Powerhound_2000 wrote:
In the Question section they do describe the environment they fight in.  As to the agreement part it doesn’t seem like any hero or villain necessarily agrees to this they were just forced into it.  

 

I hate to say it, but that's a little lame then.  They're saying that Legacy agreed to beat the tar out of another hero just because a space alien told him to, with no other motivation than that?  I don't think I'll bother to listen through to the end of this one. :(

They don’t ever fully explain the motivations as to how they got various villains and heroes to participate.   That just seems like they got forced to.  I have a question on that for the Editor’s Note.  I will say it’s worthwhile to listen to the end though even not knowing the motivations. 


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When a being with the power to whisk people from which ever reality they are in to another place billions of lightyears from their relative places of residence tells you to fight so one of you can become "Champion of Earth", you say yes!

 

And man, I really wanted Blade to win and then go "What need have I for your gifts? I already proved I can survive anything."


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I'm listening to the podcast again, and there is something that I don't think I caught. What was the battleground like? The environment? Was i ana lien planet? a city? an arena? I'm doing my best to picture this. 


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From WalkingTarget’s notes:

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  • What's the environmental setup? The environments are all sort of an "empty ruin planet" - an arena that Jansa set up just for this. There's lots of varied terrain and cover available, but the environment itself isn't throwing in any twists to affect the outcome.


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The Environment description is early on in the Questions section at the end. My notes for it are thus:

"The environments are all sort of an "empty ruin planet" - an arena that Jansa set up just for this. There's lots of varied terrain and cover available, but the environment itself isn't throwing in any twists to affect the outcome."

I got an urban feel from some descriptions and rural from others, so I think it's kind of a "whatever would look cooler for that fight" situation.

Edit - and ninja'd in quoting myself by Powerhound/Sonvar. Par for the course, really.

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Blade was ROBBED! ROBBED, I tell you!

 

It hadn't really occurred to me until this episode just how many ultra-powerful characters there are in the Multiverse. Characters where Christopher and Adam tell us, "Seriously you guys, X is so powerful, you don't even know." I'd have been tempted to pick Haka for the win because of the statements in his episode that it took plot devices to stop him just showing up and solving major events in the comics. But then I recalled that Progeny took out the entire Prime Wardens team handily. Then Citizen Dawn beats Progeny, and Fanatic beats Haka, and...

 

The Cosmic Contest is the best sort of 'who would win in a fight' discussion. It gives a lot of interesting 'what if?' confrontations, but doesn't give us an ultimate answer of who's the 'best' character, because each fight was so situational. We can all hang onto our favourites, and agree that the Nightmist writers need someone to take them off to one side and have a quiet word about making everyone else look bad. :P


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The Almighty Weasel wrote:

We can all hang onto our favourites,

I can't speak for anyone else, but whether I like a character or not has pretty much everything to do with their personality and the concept of their powers and very little to do with their actual power level or who they can beat in a fight.

(Which is why I was amused with this whole deal instead of irritated, because it never made that sort of judgment that a less powerful character is a "bad" character.)


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Jeysie wrote:

 

The Almighty Weasel wrote:
We can all hang onto our favourites,

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but whether I like a character or not has pretty much everything to do with their personality and the concept of their powers and very little to do with their actual power level or who they can beat in a fight.(Which is why I was amused with this whole deal instead of irritated, because it never made that sort of judgment that a less powerful character is a "bad" character.)

 

This is especially true when we are talking about comic book characters who’s “power levels” vary drastically depending on writer.  

 

If someone honestly says “I’m not going to play XYZ ever again because they lost the Cosmic Contest” then I suspect they are missing the whole silly point of this event.  

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Nilus wrote:

If someone honestly says “I’m not going to play XYZ ever again because they lost the Cosmic Contest” then I suspect they are missing the whole silly point of this event.  

Yeah, one of the things I like about the Sentinels fandom is that we're usually pretty cool about not bashing each other's choice of favorites.

But, ugh, so many geek fandoms where I've very definitely seen people bashing each other's faves for being "weak" characters in some way, which definitely tends to come out of the woodwork particularly in "who'd win against who" type discussions.

Which is disappointing because discussing the weird ways various powers interact with each other is otherwise pretty intellectually entertaining.


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The Almighty Weasel wrote:

We can all hang onto our favourites, and agree that the Nightmist writers need someone to take them off to one side and have a quiet word about making everyone else look bad. :P

In all honesty, I'd agree with how things went for Nightmist. She dealt with threas quickly and concisely, but most of all she handled them 'believably'.

I just wish AA was in his right mind when they fought. That would have been quite the battle, I bet.

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Now that I've finally finished this very entertaining episode, I think the biggest surprise was this:

They thought the puzzle hunt would last FIVE YEARS?!

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I think it was more that the demand was there with sales strong enough to fund things at a much faster rate than they expected; Vengeance got funded essentially as a stretch goal, for one thing. 

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Yeah, they kind of turbo-accelerated the expansions. It went from one every year or two to one every ~9 months.


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WOOOO NIghtMIst Won!, I guess one person right all the way, wish I been a bit more serious with the rest.

We have to note that we didn't have all the information. We didn't know Lifeline is Countess's Thrall (I still rooted for the Countess), Progeny was powered so Dawn got powered up. Dawn can absorb dragon Fire but not Holy Light.

I want to remind people that anything Apostate can do Fanatic can do, even if she is not aware of it. Fanatics is very competitive, I would hate to play the board game Sorry with her.

And you guys leave Parse alone. I liked her before but now she is in my top 3 heroes, even if I don't enjoy her deck all that much. My take on her vs Unity is "I don't wanna hurt you and this is the fastest resolution for this battle. You are not in a place to carry on". I am now super pumped for the Parse episode, Need to form my question now.

Sie note: I love the SC writer world. I give C&A lots of wiggle room to be wrong and shows they have a lot of love for comic books. I am sure if a different writer would have let different people win. We also know the Terminarc can pull people banish form time and from deep inside a sun but not the realm of discord. (Poor BB)


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