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Did Wayne's wife know that the murderer was going to kill Wayne?

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Ronway wrote:

Did Wayne's wife know that the murderer was going to kill Wayne?

No.


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Did Wayne and the murderer live close enough to eachother that they could meet easily?

Was Wayne murdered in the city (or surrounding city) that he lived in?

Did the murderer know that Wayne was married?

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Ronway wrote:

Did Wayne and the murderer live close enough to eachother that they could meet easily?Was Wayne murdered in the city (or surrounding city) that he lived in?Did the murderer know that Wayne was married?

I don't know (this means the story didn't say). No. Yes.


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Was he out on a vaction when he was murdered?

Vacation out of the Country?

If so, was it with his wife?

Did the murderer just show up if he was on vacation with his wife?

Did he go with the murderer instead of his wife?

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Was he out on a vaction when he was murdered?Vacation out of the Country?If so, was it with his wife?Did the murderer just show up if he was on vacation with his wife?Did he go with the murderer instead of his wife?

Yes and no. Yes and no. No. No. Yes.


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He was murdered outside of the Country?

Would it be cheating if a looked up reasons to wear a raincoat by a river?

 

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He was murdered outside of the Country?Would it be cheating if a looked up reasons to wear a raincoat by a river? 

Ok, I have to declare a bit of my own lack-of-knowledge here, even though it may give away some clues. The story doesn't say his country of origin, but it does say where he was murdered. So, I don't know if he went out of the country. Now, of course, the next few questions will be: was he murdered in US, in XXXX, in YYYY. However, I really don't know. WE are dealing where very fine points about where the border is, and I just won;t know the answer. So, I will give this away: It is on the border of two countries.

I don't think so.


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I know you said that Wayne and the murderer aren't old friends, but are they friends?

 

If they aren't friends, are they just casual acquaintances?


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I know you said that Wayne and the murderer aren't old friends, but are they friends? If they aren't friends, are they just casual acquaintances?

Yes. No.


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Alright, I found 2 things.

Were they standing in the river fishing?

Were they at a waterfall?

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Ronway wrote:

Alright, I found 2 things.Were they standing in the river fishing?Were they at a waterfall?

No. Yes.


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Did the murderer push Wayne into the river?

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Did the murderer push Wayne into the river?

No.


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Did the murder tell him to jump into the river?

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Is the murderer related to Wayne?

 

Is the waterfall Niagra Falls?


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Ronway wrote:

Did the murder tell him to jump into the river?

Define what you mean by "tell him to jump in the river."


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Nielzabub wrote:

Is the murderer related to Wayne? Is the waterfall Niagra Falls?

No. Yes.


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Pydro wrote:

 

Ronway wrote:
Did the murder tell him to jump into the river?

 

Define what you mean by "tell him to jump in the river."

Ohhh!!! I think I may of picked up that whenever you say define, it means it is close.

My original meaning was she litrally said "Jump into the river".

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Ronway wrote:

 

Pydro wrote:
 Ronway wrote:
Did the murder tell him to jump into the river? 

 

Define what you mean by "tell him to jump in the river."

Ohhh!!! I think I may of picked up that whenever you say define, it means it is close.My original meaning was she litrally said "Jump into the river".

Dang it, I think you are on to me. It is so hard answering with only those reposnses, and sometimes the questions can mean so many different things, that you need the person to narrow down what the exact question is. Anyways, to asnwer your question: No.


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Did the murderer force Wayne into the river by gunpoint?


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Excellent. So between defining him getting killed by his on stupidity and her telling him to jump off, I think she told him to step somewhere that he foolishly listened to, which caused him to fall to his death.

Something I have done (not to the point to cause death...) with a camara before, causing people to trip over things. Since they are at a waterfall, it certainly makes since her to try to get a picture in.

So was she taking a picture of him and asked him to step back where he ended up falling into the river below?

 

If that's correct, we now only need the why and how she was caught.

Did someone see her do it?

Did she actually take the picture when he was beginning to fall?

Did she want him to leave his wife to marry her instead, when he declined is when she decided to murder him?

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Nielzabub wrote:

Did the murderer force Wayne into the river by gunpoint?

No.


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Was the gender of the murderer ever confirmed?

 

Is the murderer male?


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Ronway wrote:

Excellent. So between defining him getting killed by his on stupidity and her telling him to jump off, I think she told him to step somewhere that he foolishly listened to, which caused him to fall to his death.Something I have done (not to the point to cause death...) with a camara before, causing people to trip over things. Since they are at a waterfall, it certainly makes since her to try to get a picture in.So was she taking a picture of him and asked him to step back where he ended up falling into the river below? 

Yes.

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If that's correct, we now only need the why and how she was caught.Did someone see her do it?

No.

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Did she actually take the picture when he was beginning to fall?

Yes.

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Did she want him to leave his wife to marry her instead, when he declined is when she decided to murder him?

Yes.

 

Wow! I think that is everything. Good job, everyone!


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Nielzabub wrote:

Was the gender of the murderer ever confirmed? Is the murderer male?

No. No.


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Can we get the completed text?

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Also, I think technically he died of something other than drowning... even if the official thing says otherwise

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Humble-Knight wrote:

Can we get the completed text?

I don't have the card with me, but it went something like this:

Wayne told his wife he was going on a business trip, but was really meeting his girlfriend at Niagara Falls. It was at that time that Wayne told his girlfriend that he was not going to leave his wife and that their relationship with as coming to an end.

The girlfriend was angry and decided to kill Wayne. They went to a secluded place above the falls, and she told Wayne she was going to take his picture. As Wayne was posing, she kept telling him to back up, until he fell into the river. He then went down the falls and drowned (although I agree he might have died for other reasons).

The girlfriend made one mistake, she actually took the picture of Wayne falling. When she got the film developed (remember 1993), the developer saw it and called the police.


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So, what your saying is Garth was not at all involved?

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phantaskippy wrote:

So, what your saying is Garth was not at all involved?

I'm as shocked as you are.

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So the raincoat was to protect Wayne from the spray from the fall.

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Yes.


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But if he didn't fall, it would have done nothing. :D


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