Just out of curiosity, I got my Wrath of the Cosmos pre-order yesterday and while everything looks great I was wondering if there were supposed to be large Villian cards in the mix?
If not, that's fine I'll just keep an eye out for when they hit the store normally. I've just gotten so used to playing with them that it seems kinda odd to not have a set for the newcomers. :)
P.S. Guise looks totally awesome and I can't wait to play using him! Thank you all for making such a kick-ass product!
There were not supposed to be large villain cards. The only set to include those was Vengeance - all others came from the large villain card pack.
If you like them, though, Spiff makes some pretty nifty double-sized villian cards that you can use. Check out his stuff.
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Ah cool! That totally answers my question. Danke! ^_^
Do you have a link to those?
http://www.spiffworld.com/sotm/
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On the BGG forums, Craig indicated that the upcoming oversized villians pack would be coming free to anyone who preordered WotC.
Preordered WotC or VotM?
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Paul said they were only free to those who ordered them a while back.
https://greaterthangames.com/comment/94875#comment-94875
I mean, I wish my pre-order of WotC qualified me, but that's quite a lot of free oversize villians (over 5,000!).
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That is a lot of free villains, but that's what was stated. Although I notice that the specific post I linked to is now gone, so maybe they're walking that back. You can still see his post within other people's back-quotes in the BGG thread.
That post was based on a misunderstanding on my part. It's been deleted.
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So Craig, how are you enjoying your new job?
I can't remember; I have the oversize villian pack that I snagged of eBay (a very lucky find, I might add) which includes all the current villains, save WotC and Wager Master of course. It still has the old Matriarch wording. Was there ever a pack that updated that?
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Should I be concerned if I still haven't gotten my preorder?
That depends on where in the world you live. If you're in the US or Canada, send me an email to . If you're somewhere outside of that, I wouldn't worry about it yet.
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So when should we worry? Considering that overseas users paid as much for the shipping as we did for the game itself, it would be nice to not be dismissed like that.
I haven't had a shipping notification or anything, I dont know if its shipped, still in your US warehouse, stuck in transit somewhere and I have now seen people on the twitter saying they have bought the Omnitron pack at thier FLGS and stores getting thier shipping boxes. Overseas pre-orders should still be PRE-orders.
Sorry to sound grumpy about it, and I certainly don't mean to come across as a dick, but it is a little irksome.
It would be nice to know what's going on...
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Looks like at this point I could get stuff quicker by ordering from a US store myself. That makes me sad.
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Why not? Why shouldn't we be worried? You're making me worry!
EDIT: Damn Ninjas making serious points...
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I did serious. I hope you're paying attention.
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They stated elsewhere that they are waiting on France before they can ship.
Sure, but what's happening with that? And why does France affect everyone else anyway?
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I read it (and can't find it now to verify thanks to Pydro's nooby thread snipping) as they WERE waiting on that but that had now passed. I could be wrong but I can't find it to check.
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You mean this comment in a thread about WCos shipping?
https://greaterthangames.com/comment/95080#comment-95080
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Most likely shipping them all at once, then distribution is being handled over there, maybe shipping to France?
Im not a frequent forum-er, so I tend to miss a lot of what said in threads on here.
Last email I had from them (to confirm the shipping address, leading me to believe it was actually, ya know, shipping) was in November.
EDIT : Thanks for the link, Pydro.
That's the one. (I went to the France thread to see where you had snipped it from, but there's no link in your snip's Pydro)
I read the "They've taken" as "We've got them now" not a "We're still waiting".
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Although I haven't been on them in a couple years now, one of the features of the Blizzard forums that was nice was the "Blue Tracker" which made it easy for people to see a list of official Blizzard Employee posts. I don't know if the forum software that GTG uses has that option or not, but if it's easy to do, that would probably be helpful for forum-goers who don't visit all that often.
So with the next pre-order thats being announced on Monday, can we get the non-US orders sent out *first* so everyone gets them at the same sort of time and shops don't get the game before folks who supported GTG with a pre-order?
Yes, DevTracker forums are soooooooo helpful!! :D
Yes, that would be nice.
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It really would be nice to have an official line on exactly what is going on or has gone on. Normally they just come individually via Fedex so holdups with French customs shouldn't have made a bean of difference. Unless they are trying something new with shipping via a consolidated distributor, after all there was an intimation somewhere from Paul that there might be a cheaper method of shipping to the EU in the future (don't ask me to link it as I haven't a clue where it is). And a bulk load went off to Esdevium before even the US stuff started shipping. If they are trying something new then it would have been cool for us to have known beforehand, if it's business as usual then... what the heck?
Eh. I much prefer that the mods, admins and everyone else have the same colour text as us, and when they need to step in they use their funky coloured text. They're just as fallible as us and giving them blue text lends undue credence to everything they say.
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Good god, yes, it's not like they need any more encouragement. I've heard that all that swivel chair fun makes the blood rush to the head.
Agreed! We all need to stick with the standard color.
The tracker was just a way to see all the admin posts in one stream, rather than having to go hunt for them. The text color was incidental. Also, while I agree on the mods...the admins, when talking about their business and game, really shouldn't be as fallible as the rest of us.
To be honest I'm in canada and got mine just yesterday at the same time as the local store. Well even the store owner was surprised to get his stuff on the same day as the pre-orders. I believe the feeling of I should get it before those who didn't preorder it is legitimate. It might be petty in some ways but it still is legitimate. Like I said earlier to not hold up to that is to bite the hand that feeds and could hurt in ulterior pre-orders especially if they don't acknowledge how some would feel cheated.
Due to the way we are shipping to the EU, they all have to go at once. That ensures that we're saving everyone money. Which is why we had to wait for France.
As far as the next preorder goes, I believe the plan is to go in reverse order from this one. EU, other international, Canada, US. But don't quote me on that.
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Thanks for the answer Craig its appreciated
Thanks for the heads up Craig. So what is the expected delivery date for EU peeps?
Edit : Never mind, I just read my email. They are not going to be sent out for another two weeks.
I do appriciate the situation and the response, fingers crossed that next Villains Unleashed goes smoother all around, but I don't see us getting Wrath before March.
That's unfortunate. I appreciate shipping EU stuff first for the next pre-order. I'm interested in and excited by the new expansion, but my enthusiasm is a little dampened by not having the current expansion yet. (I'd probably feel better if I hadn't decided to save shipping on Sentinels Tactics and have the main game and expansion shipping delayed until the map pack add-ons were ready. So much pre-ordered stuff unreceived!)
New expansion hasn't even hit playtest yet.
I don't have an email, because someone preordered for me.
Can someone post it here please? I'd like to know what's going on.
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Email from Paul below...
"Greetings!
I would like to apologize to all of you for the delay in shipping Wrath of the Cosmos preorders to EU backers. For the past several months, we have been working with FedEx and some European shipping companies to set up a more efficient and cost-effective method of importing and sending games to the EU. The simplified version of how this will work is that we will ship everything to the EU in bulk, pay taxes and import duties once at the point of entry, and then have the individual parcels sent out throughout Europe. This will ensure that all of you receive your items without having to pay any taxes or duties. One of the key parts of this setup is that we will be handling EU customs clearance ourselves instead of relying on FedEx or another company, which means that we need a VAT number somewhere in the EU. Because of how we are setting this up, it happens that we are getting a VAT number in France. We have been waiting for this number for months, with regular assurances that we would be getting it by the end of 2014. As you might have guessed, we still do not have a VAT number. As of Monday I was told that we would have it "by the end of next week". In summary, in order to ship these orders EU friendly, they are delayed until we receive a VAT number from the French government. As soon as we do, we will be sending them out. I definitely realize that this is frustrating. There is nothing we can do to speed it up at this point, but we have decided that, as a small token of our appreciation for your patience with this order, for our next pre-order shipment we will ship to EU backers before anyone else, including US customers. I apologize again for the delay, and will keep you all informed as more information comes in. At this point, I anticipate sending your orders within the next two weeks."Okay. That sucks. I know it's not your fault >G, but, man. Feels like it's been FOREVER already, and it's difficult knowing so many people have been enjoying it already.
Big disappointment.
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Working for a French company as I do this'll probably go on for more than another two weeks :( Then we have the delays in freight forwarding. Roll on March... never mind though, it'll get here when it gets here.
Urgh. What's the problem, France?
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I concur.
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Damn it, Ronway!
As someone based in the US...I totally agree that EU orders should go first next time. They have so much further to travel, and all of the duties really hang things up even more (hanging "duties?" teehee). I'm fine delaying mine to make sure they at least are on the WAY across the ocean to those other fine fans of the game!
Agreed.
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