The forums moved on March 1, 2021. Please read this page for more information.

New game: Freedom Five

147 posts / 0 new
Last post
Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

The latest newsletter is here: https://mailchi.mp/9f724e95f3e8/freedom-five-a-sentinels-comics-board-ga...

We have box art previews, ability card previews, and mini previews!


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

TakeWalker
TakeWalker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 26, 2016

Damn, that looks cool! The Bunker figure especially. :D And I love Legacy's expression on Fortitude.

I still need to go try out the game this is based on! Do I want it or not? XD

bobbertoriley
bobbertoriley's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: Aug 31, 2015

If I spy it correctly, is that Chrono-Ranger and Guise on the panel with Friction on the left?

Powerhound_2000
Powerhound_2000's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
PlaytesterExceeded Expectations
Joined: Sep 14, 2013

Hadn't looked at the side but it looks like them to me too.  


Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and laminate their women! - Guise, Prime Wardens #31

 
MindWanderer
MindWanderer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Oct 29, 2015

That's definitely a different take on Legacy!  Very cool, especially the sculpts.

Man, I wish I enjoyed Defenders of the Realm better.


Sentinels Statistics Project -- Statistics updated daily!

Submit your games here!

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

Sounds like they're making improvements and general changes to the original to create this, so maybe you'll enjoy it? :-)  


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

MindWanderer
MindWanderer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Yeah, likely.  And I understand Defenders of the Last Stand is better, too.  But that personally drops me from "Kickstart" immediately to "wait and see."


Sentinels Statistics Project -- Statistics updated daily!

Submit your games here!

morph147
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 10 hours ago
Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Kinda curious the price. A lot of good kickstarters in October.


My wife thinks Sentinels is ruining our marriage. I think she doesnt know what shes talking about because she wont sit down to play it

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

morph147 wrote:
A lot of good kickstarters in October.

Ooo... Do I want to know what's coming? ;-)


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

Godai
Godai's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 01, 2016

Rabit wrote:
morph147 wrote:

A lot of good kickstarters in October.

Ooo... Do I want to know what's coming? ;-)

...Winter.

I’ll show myself out.

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

Godai wrote:
...Winter.
I’ll show myself out.

X-D


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

The next newsletter is up! https://mailchi.mp/ed816d5ff9b6/freedom-five-a-sentinels-comics-board-ga...

More looks at gameplay, minis, and ability cards.


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

MindWanderer
MindWanderer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Interesting that each of the heroes have an alter ego ability.  Absolute Zero isn't ever out of suit except when he's back in his cryo-chamber.


Sentinels Statistics Project -- Statistics updated daily!

Submit your games here!

TakeWalker
TakeWalker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 26, 2016

Oh, this is very exciting. :D

liarliar
liarliar's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 weeks ago
Joined: Oct 10, 2016

MindWanderer wrote:
Interesting that each of the heroes have an alter ego ability.  Absolute Zero isn't ever out of suit except when he's back in his cryo-chamber.

Yeah, I wonder if his might be him in the chamber - either recovering from damage, or maybe providing assistance and advice to other heroes? I’ll be very interested to see.

Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

MindWanderer wrote:
Interesting that each of the heroes have an alter ego ability.

Also a "personal task".


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

Trajector
Trajector's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Dec 13, 2014

Also, he's Frozone-style ice surfing now! And his mini looks *awesome.*

Yeah, the alter ego thing is really interesting. Since the gameplay has, until now, seemed focused on superheroics, I wonder what happens in the gameplay to encourage (or force) players to flip back to their alter ego. There must either be problems that can only be solved in mild-mannered mode, things the villain can do to force you to adopt your alter identity, or a cooldown on how long you can stay in costume.

Anybody else open up the image with the overview of components and zoom in? Besides hints about hero stats and abilities, there's a reference to "the scenario comic."

morph147
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 10 hours ago
Joined: Jan 22, 2015

have we been told prices yet on the regular box and the heroic box? Also how long the kickstarter will run for?


My wife thinks Sentinels is ruining our marriage. I think she doesnt know what shes talking about because she wont sit down to play it

Powerhound_2000
Powerhound_2000's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
PlaytesterExceeded Expectations
Joined: Sep 14, 2013

We only know what has been provided in the email updates and that information has not been shared.   Only piece I'd guess on is the KS length as those usually default to around a month.  


Crush your enemies, drive them before you, and laminate their women! - Guise, Prime Wardens #31

 
Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

New newsletter already! https://mailchi.mp/dd9438c278bc/freedom-five-a-sentinels-comics-board-ga...

We have a video of AZ's mini being colored, pricing tier breakdown, a look at the places in Megalopolis, a peek at the Bystander, Special (with special guest hero appearance!), and Anarchy cards, and finally a totally boss pic of Baron Blade.


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

Yeah, that was a _great_ update! :-D 

Pricing was better than I expected, also. Should be an interesting Kickstarter! ;-) 


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

TakeWalker
TakeWalker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 26, 2016

Hey, it's Parse! :D

I like the way these anarchy cards work, too. You can just clear them, or clear them with a benefit, or fail and get wrecked. :)

liarliar
liarliar's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 4 weeks ago
Joined: Oct 10, 2016

Yeah, they look really cool! I’m excited to see what other challenges and support characters show up in game. 

(Although my repressed anarchist side feels like the Anarchy cards could do with a rename :P )

Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

Second to last newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/cac80cbe9da3/freedom-five-a-sentinels-comics-board-ga...

This one has lots of villain-related-things previews, more hero ability card previews, and a truly awesome Baron Blade mini!


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

TakeWalker
TakeWalker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 26, 2016

Ambuscade is not allowed to look that cool. >:B

I really love how they've forgone flavor text on the cards in favor of the art being basically an entire page of a comic book. :D

You're right, that Blade mini is incredible.

Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

Yeah, I normally love me all the flavor text, but... that art. So tempting.

It's like the Distracted Boyfriend meme with me as the dude, the Freedom Five Artist(s) as the lady in red, and Adam as the horrified girlfriend. >_>


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

Except Adam is also looking at the art with admiration. ;-) But yeah, agreed! :-D 


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

WalkingTarget
WalkingTarget's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: May 03, 2012

Jeysie wrote:
Yeah, I normally love me all the flavor text, but... that art. So tempting.

My guess is that not having flavor text was another concession on the "less additional work for Christopher" front.

dpt
dpt's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Aug 06, 2013

WalkingTarget wrote:
Jeysie wrote:

Yeah, I normally love me all the flavor text, but... that art. So tempting.

My guess is that not having flavor text was another concession on the "less additional work for Christopher" front.

I doubt that makes it easier: you still have to flesh out the story beats, whether there are words or not?

PlatinumWarlock
PlatinumWarlock's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 hours ago
Joined: Feb 10, 2013

The Dice Tower video channel has a playthrough later this week, for those interested.  I'll certainly be curious to see the differences from the Defenders of the X games, as well as what we can expect.

Godai
Godai's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 01, 2016

And the final pre-newsletter has gone out. It has the prices. ...ouch. $50 for the base game seems fair. $99 to include 6(+?) unpainted miniatures seems... excessive. $199 for all the bells and whistles is staggering. Thoughts?

Jimeni
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Aug 10, 2014

Godai wrote:
And the final pre-newsletter has gone out. It has the prices. ...ouch. $50 for the base game seems fair. $99 to include 6(+?) unpainted miniatures seems... excessive. $199 for all the bells and whistles is staggering. Thoughts?

Yeah. $49 extra for 6 unpainted minis does seem a lot, but I suspect/hope there's more than that what with stretch goals and all.
But I think I was already leaning toward the retail version anyway, as I have enough games with unpainted minis and don't have the skills, or time, to paint them. And I'm starting to think standees are just better for me personally because ... color! But we shall see. Can't wait to know more about this game/Kickstarter campaign.
I'm looking forward to the Dice Tower playthrough of it tommorow, though I likely won't be watching it live.

Jeysie
Jeysie's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Nov 11, 2016

Jimeni wrote:
Godai wrote:

And the final pre-newsletter has gone out. It has the prices. ...ouch. $50 for the base game seems fair. $99 to include 6(+?) unpainted miniatures seems... excessive. $199 for all the bells and whistles is staggering. Thoughts?

Yeah. $49 extra for 6 unpainted minis does seem a lot, but I suspect/hope there's more than that what with stretch goals and all.
But I think I was already leaning toward the retail version anyway, as I have enough games with unpainted minis and don't have the skills, or time, to paint them. And I'm starting to think standees are just better for me personally because ... color! But we shall see. Can't wait to know more about this game/Kickstarter campaign.
I'm looking forward to the Dice Tower playthrough of it tommorow, though I likely won't be watching it live.

Three words: Low production runs.

Looking it up, mass-market produced unpainted minis seem to run about $1-2 per mini, so ~$8/mini for a low production run is about what I'd expect. Ditto for some of the other extras which run into the same "low print run" deal.

I worked at a graphic design & sign shop for a time as their secretary, and raw amount of units made (cards, sheets, whatever) has a significant impact on the per unit pricing.

Not that this is intended to argue that it's cheap from an overall standpoint, but they're honestly not gouging people.


"If life gives you lemons, make a lemon cannon."

Not always the best at social skills; I apologize in advance. I don't apologize for any corny and morbid jokes, though.

Resident Argent Adept and Biomancer fangirl, be forewarned.

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

Also, I get the impression the box is larger and ready for expansions, which the $49 level does not have. It's not just the minis. 

The newsletter wrote:
- Core Game Components*
- Heroes & Masterminds upgraded to miniatures
- Kickstarter Exclusive Deluxe Box & Smart Storage System.

I _am_ disappointed there are Kickstarter-exclusive aspects, but I'm still going in on it. 


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

TakeWalker
TakeWalker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 26, 2016

Rabit wrote:
Also, I get the impression the box is larger and ready for expansions, which the $49 level does not have. It's not just the minis. 

The newsletter wrote:

- Core Game Components*
- Heroes & Masterminds upgraded to miniatures
- Kickstarter Exclusive Deluxe Box & Smart Storage System.

I _am_ disappointed there are Kickstarter-exclusive aspects, but I'm still going in on it. 

Same. I'm willing to drop the extra for possible stretch goals, it'll probably be worth it.

And then I won't be buying anything else for the rest of the year... :B

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

bobbertoriley
bobbertoriley's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: Aug 31, 2015

Hopefully stretch goals unlock more. I'm used to a lot more variability from Sentinels and Spirit Island, so $50-200 for five heroes and one mastermind seems kinda steep.

TakeWalker
TakeWalker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 26, 2016

I misread the pledge levels, so it turns out the base version gets all the stretch goals too. :) That's fine by me, especially since shipping is up in the air.

Anyone else think that Guise pic they used for the stretch goals header is terrifying? XD

Godai
Godai's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 01, 2016

I'm in for the $50 version, will update my pledge as more info comes out. 

MindWanderer
MindWanderer's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Wow, they ran out of the $499 "get your face in the game" tier already.

I'm not hugely stoked about this so far.  It's gorgeous, but $200 is a lot to drop on a game that isn't even out yet.  And I'm not a fan of Kickstarter exclusives even if I'm getting them.  Oh, and shipping not included, which makes sense, but remember to add about $15 (if in the US) to what you expect to pay.

Jeysie wrote:

Looking it up, mass-market produced unpainted minis seem to run about $1-2 per mini, so ~$8/mini for a low production run is about what I'd expect. Ditto for some of the other extras which run into the same "low print run" deal.
I worked at a graphic design & sign shop for a time as their secretary, and raw amount of units made (cards, sheets, whatever) has a significant impact on the per unit pricing.
Not that this is intended to argue that it's cheap from an overall standpoint, but they're honestly not gouging people.

The minis by themselves are available as an add-on for $15 (6 minis).  The other $35 is the box, and we all know how expensive boxes can be.  Looks like they're charging $10 each to upgrade from unpainted to painted minis.

Sentinels Statistics Project -- Statistics updated daily!

Submit your games here!

Yak Guardian
Yak Guardian's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 3 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Nov 29, 2012

I'll be sitting at the $5 Pledge-Mananger-Access level for most of the campaign. It ends on a payday, but I still don't see upgrading much past the $49 retail level. I understanding (and accept) their pricing strategy, but, you know, pandemic, blah, blah, blah.


Yak Guardian
(aka Michael)
R.I.P. Blake Washington

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

TakeWalker wrote:
Anyone else think that Guise pic they used for the stretch goals header is terrifying? XD

YES!!! :-o


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

Godai
Godai's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 01, 2016

Have now watched (nearly all of) the Dice Tower playthrough just now, and man, that looks frakin' hard. Like, I'm not sure I'm going to back it levels of hard. This might be the first Kickstarter I back out of. I'll continue to watch videos, and see if things get clearer, but for now, I'm officially on the fence. 

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

Godai wrote:
Have now watched (nearly all of) the Dice Tower playthrough just now, and man, that looks frakin' hard.

Do you mean "hard" as in hard to win, or "hard" as in hard to play?


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

Godai
Godai's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 01, 2016

Rabit wrote:
Godai wrote:

Have now watched (nearly all of) the Dice Tower playthrough just now, and man, that looks frakin' hard.

Do you mean "hard" as in hard to win, or "hard" as in hard to play?

Hard to win, medium on play. From my inexperienced eye, they all looked like they made decent to good choices each turn, and they still got stomped on. For scenario 1 of a campaign mode, there was nothing there to feel good about.

morph147
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 10 hours ago
Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Can someone help me out with the kickstarter here. My reading skills is either not working or I am not clear. I am looking at the kickstarter and the heroic box. What exactly comes in this thing that is different than the retail box? It is throwing me off because then I go down to add-ons and reading it I feel like a lot of these add-ons are already in the box. It is leaving me a bit confused on what exaxtly I want to order from this.

 

 


My wife thinks Sentinels is ruining our marriage. I think she doesnt know what shes talking about because she wont sit down to play it

Rabit
Rabit's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
ModeratorPlaytester
Joined: Aug 08, 2011

No worries!

  • Hero only includes the (unpainted) "Core Game Miniatures" and the "Delux Box and Smart Storage System" (in addition to the core game). 
  • Citizen only has the core game. 
  • Sentinel has almost all of the things.  

Let's see if dropping the KS graphic in here will work...


"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart." - Mal

Unicode U+24BD gets us Ⓗ. (Thanks, Godai!)

Godai
Godai's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Joined: Feb 01, 2016

I'll try.

$49 = Basic game

$99 = Basic game + bigger box/storage trays + 6(+?) unpainted miniatures 

$199 = everything 

morph147
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 10 hours ago
Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Ok so reading through this the only add on you get at the hero level is the unpainted minatures they mention? everything else you would have to add on seperately?


My wife thinks Sentinels is ruining our marriage. I think she doesnt know what shes talking about because she wont sit down to play it

dpt
dpt's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 2 weeks ago
Playtester
Joined: Aug 06, 2013

morph147 wrote:
Ok so reading through this the only add on you get at the hero level is the unpainted minatures they mention? everything else you would have to add on seperately?

That's correct, everything else listed under 'Add-Ons' is part of the $200 'Sentinel' level but not the $100 'Hero' level.

Pages