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Christopher wrote:
Well, since you forum folks are so awesome, I'll go ahead and post some advance art here to give you an update that won't be released for at least another week or so!

Enjoy!

That removes the doubt that some had... unless it's the flames


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In that photo though it appears he has black hair... Kind of making me a little bit curious as to what is going on there... Maybe he likes to dye is hair often?

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So, the "Shrink a picture to nigh useless size button." is next to the "Post to the forums" button, which coincidentally lies next to the "Watermark a random picture on the hard drive" button from Rook City? Man, I don't want to think about how you work on that keyboard.

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It's a constant challenge.


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Known Nemesis as of 4-25-2012...

Heroes by Set - Villain (set they come from)
History/reason for of rivalry

Core Game (C)
Absolute Zero - Unknown (?)

Bunker - Unknown (?)

Fanatic - ? [Strong hints at it being the shirtless dark winged fallen angel guy seen on several of the cards in her deck] (IR)

Haka - Unknown (?)

Legacy - Baron Blade (C)
Family rivalry going back generations

Ra - The Ennead - A group of 9 rival Egyptian gods (IR)
Two-fold rivalry...first the host bodies of these ancient gods are rival archeologists and second these ancient gods have been at war for hundreds of years

Tachyon - The Matriarch (RC)
Estranged cousins with The Matriarch hating Tachyon for always being so succesful

Tempest - Grand Warlord Voss (C)
Tempest is the last survivor of another planet that Voss conquered previously

The Visionary - Unknown (?)

The Wraith - Spite (RC)
The Wraith is protector of Rook City and Spite is its most deranged psychotic citizen

Rook City (RC)
Expatriatte - Citizen Dawn (C)
Snob elitist mother Dawn shunned super powerless daughter Expatriatte

Mr. Fixer - The Chairman & The Operative (RC)
Mr. Fixer is an everyday joe who has watched his neighborhood become corrupted and innocent people suffer.  The Chairman and his Operative are the power behind all that corruption.

Infernal Relics (IR)
New Hero Guy - Akash'bhuta (IR)

NightMist  - Gloom Weaver (IR)

Villains with still unknown heroes
? - Omnitron (C)
? [Hints at a possible Chrono Ranger character] - Plague Rat (RC)

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So, with the reveal of the Ennead, and the 95% chance Fanatic's nemesis is that black-winged guy, it looks like we've at least seen all of the new people in the expansion. Now we just have to wait and find out what their names are and where they come from, etc.


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I theorize that they all come from Las Vegas, that pyramid is actually a casino. Infernal Relics is just a catchy name and you can find the Enead on the strip every Thursday and Friday.

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Ronway wrote:
I theorize that they all come from Las Vegas, that pyramid is actually a casino. Infernal Relics is just a catchy name and you can find the Enead on the strip every Thursday and Friday.

Man that sounds awesome. If >G wanted to they could probably sell "skins" just like in League of Legends where the character and their powers are exactly the same but with differently themed artwork (like Mafia Ennead or Casino Crew Ennead)

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Tachyon - The Matriarch (RC)
Estranged cousins with The Matriarch hating Tachyon for always being so succesful

I still don't buy this relationship. Is there a stronger reason why Tachyon is nemeses with Matriarch? I can see Matriarch hating Tachyon for her childhood trauma of being compared, but why would Tachyon bear a grudge against Matriarch?

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ketigid wrote:

logan_mann wrote:
Tachyon - The Matriarch (RC)
Estranged cousins with The Matriarch hating Tachyon for always being so succesful

I still don't buy this relationship. Is there a stronger reason why Tachyon is nemeses with Matriarch? I can see Matriarch hating Tachyon for her childhood trauma of being compared, but why would Tachyon bear a grudge against Matriarch?

It can still be one sided.


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Imagine what happens if Tachyon runs into strategically located bird while running full speed to save the world. I'm sure after unintentionally hitting a bird at Mach X several times will leave one battered and bruised and aching to take down the mastermind.

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Imagine what happens if Tachyon runs into strategically located bird while running full speed to save the world. I'm sure after unintentionally hitting a bird at Mach X several times will leave one battered and bruised and aching to take down the mastermind.

Totally agree. I'm sure Matriarch has done that to Tachyon on various occasions. I can picture Tachyon running to meet the Freedom Five at Baron Blade's after eating her pizza then birds are placed in her path through out her entire journey.

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Ya know, Tachyon really should consider adding a motorcycle helmet to her costume.

Seriously, what happens when she hits a bug at Mach?  And how many bugs has she inhaled/swallowed by breathing at the wrong time?

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The HUD Goggles flavour text talks about that!

It's probably why Tachyon is pictured eating so often, to get rid of the taste of the bugs.


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People who know me know that I am pretty much always eating, due to my ridiculous metabolism.

You don't want to know what Tachyon's metabolism is like.


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Christopher wrote:
People who know me know that I am pretty much always eating, due to my ridiculous metabolism.

You don't want to know what Tachyon's metabolism is like.

Wait, you mean your Tachyon's illegitimate love child?


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The Conscience wrote:

Christopher wrote:
People who know me know that I am pretty much always eating, due to my ridiculous metabolism.

You don't want to know what Tachyon's metabolism is like.

Wait, you mean your Tachyon's illegitimate love child?

1) *you're

2) No.  I created her.  She did not create me.  (BUT THAT WOULD BE AWESOME)


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Christopher wrote:

2) No.  I created her.  She did not create me.  (BUT THAT WOULD BE AWESOME)

Maybe she ran around the earth so fast that she turned back time and created you, thus becoming her own grandmother. Because comics!


I am the Bad Wolf. I create myself.
I take the words. I scatter them in time... and space.
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Tamar wrote:

Christopher wrote:

2) No.  I created her.  She did not create me.  (BUT THAT WOULD BE AWESOME)

Maybe she ran around the earth so fast that she turned back time and created you, thus becoming her own grandmother. Because comics!

Does that mean she no longer carries the delta brain wave, making her immune to the Brain Spawn?


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That is exactly what that means, which will be reflected in the Brain Spawn deck. It will be impossible unless you have Tachyon in your party.

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Where's the Scooty-Puff Sr equipment card in her deck?


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Christopher wrote:

1) *you're

Oops the grammar police caught me. Damn, fingers not working the way they are supposed to. :P


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I can't wait for the Brain Spawn deck. I'll refuse to use Tachyon and see how tough it truly will be.

The Scooty-Puff Sr will probably be her promo card, if she ever does see the light of one.

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Tamar wrote:

Maybe she ran around the earth so fast that she turned back time and created you, thus becoming her own grandmother. Because comics!

I mean, hey, Superman was able to turn back time by flying around the earth really fast in that one movie.


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evandan55 wrote:

Tamar wrote:

Maybe she ran around the earth so fast that she turned back time and created you, thus becoming her own grandmother. Because comics!

I mean, hey, Superman was able to turn back time by flying around the earth really fast in that one movie.

Two movies. Superman II: Richard Donner Cut 4 Life. *gangsign*

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Ronway wrote:
I can't wait for the Brain Spawn deck. I'll refuse to use Tachyon and see how tough it truly will be.

The Scooty-Puff Sr will probably be her promo card, if she ever does see the light of one.

Well, without Tachyon (or at least the Fry promo) the Brain Spawn basically immediately make all the heroes so stupid that they can no longer use their decks, thus the villians immediately win.


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TheJayMann wrote:

Ronway wrote:
I can't wait for the Brain Spawn deck. I'll refuse to use Tachyon and see how tough it truly will be.

The Scooty-Puff Sr will probably be her promo card, if she ever does see the light of one.

Well, without Tachyon (or at least the Fry promo) the Brain Spawn basically immediately make all the heroes so stupid that they can no longer use their decks, thus the villians immediately win.

Oh, I was hoping there would at least be Will saves every turn, unless it was failed at which point would only give the hero access to one power Brick Slam "You slam yourself into a wall of bricks and recieve five damage."

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Ronway wrote:
Oh, I was hoping there would at least be Will saves every turn, unless it was failed at which point would only give the hero access to one power Brick Slam "You slam yourself into a wall of bricks and recieve five damage."

Will saves? This isn't D&D.
But I do like the dumbening of "receive", very Fry.


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Known Nemesis as of 4-27-2012...

Heroes by Set - Villain (set they come from)
History/reason for of rivalry

Core Game (C)
Absolute Zero - Unknown (?)

Bunker - Unknown (?)

Fanatic - ? [Strong hints at it being the shirtless dark winged fallen angel guy seen on several of the cards in her deck] (IR)

Haka - Unknown (?)

Legacy - Baron Blade (C)
Family rivalry going back generations

Ra - The Ennead - A group of 9 rival Egyptian gods (IR)
Two-fold rivalry...first the host bodies of these ancient gods are rival archeologists and second these ancient gods have been at war for hundreds of years

Tachyon - The Matriarch (RC)
Estranged cousins with The Matriarch hating Tachyon for always being so succesful

Tempest - Grand Warlord Voss (C)
Tempest is a survivor from another planet that Voss conquered previously

The Visionary - Unknown (?)

The Wraith - Spite (RC)
The Wraith is protector of Rook City and Spite is its most deranged psychotic citizen

Rook City (RC)
Expatriatte - Citizen Dawn (C)
Snob elitist mother Dawn shunned super powerless daughter Expatriatte

Mr. Fixer - The Chairman & The Operative (RC)
Mr. Fixer is an everyday joe who has watched his neighborhood become corrupted and innocent people suffer.  The Chairman and his Operative are the power behind all that corruption.

Infernal Relics (IR)
New Hero Guy - Akash'bhuta (IR)

NightMist  - Gloom Weaver (IR)

Promo Hero
Unity - Unknown (?)

Villains with still unknown heroes
? - Omnitron (C)
? [Hints at a possible Chrono Ranger character] - Plague Rat (RC)

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logan_mann wrote:
Known Nemesis as of 4-27-2012...

NightMist  - Gloom Weaver (IR)

Promo Hero
Unity - Unknown (?)

Villains with still unknown heroes
? - Omnitron (C)

Unity -> Omnitron?

A girl whose superpower is building machines vs a machine that builds other machines?  I can see some potential there.....

EDIT: Chris said we're all wrong here.....

The reason Omnitron is evil:  He's lonely.  All the heroes ignore him and he has no nemesis of his own....

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I can't recall at the moment and i don't have my copy of the game near me, but what does the nemesis symbol on Omnitron's card look like again?

EDIT: Found it on BGG...yeah...that still hints at nothing to me.  Plague Rats does some major hinting...not so much Omnitron's.

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logan_mann wrote:
I can't recall at the moment and i don't have my copy of the game near me, but what does the nemesis symbol on Omnitron's card look like again?

EDIT: Found it on BGG...yeah...that still hints at nothing to me.  Plague Rats does some major hinting...not so much Omnitron's.

Omnitron's real name is Skynet. His nemesis is John Connor.

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I didn't think Tempest was the last survivor, I thought he was the only one who decided to search for the Freedom Five to request help to defeat Voss. The others are just hidden somewhere on Earth so they won't be captured and they are a peaceful race so they don't want to fight.

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I believe you're right...I'll change that above.

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Also, I don't know if it has been confirmed or not, but I do wonder if Spite (Or Jack Donavan) was one of the thieves that attacked Wraith and killed her boyfriend. It's unlikely but very much possible. Maybe someone can shed some light on it?

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I've not heard reference to that...if so that adds a lot more personal touch to it.

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I haven't heard the reference at all, it's pure speculation on my behalf. That's the only thing that I could come up with that would be able to link the two. If it's not true then maybe there is something that hasn't been revealed yet to add that personal touch?

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I personally wonder if an alternate villain could have a different nemesis then their original. It's not uncommon for a villain to sometimes jump to another comic if they fit in better thematically, or just in a cross-over arc to have a plan to beat someone other then their major foil. It's not normal, but it's been known to happen. I do find it extremely unlikely that a alternate hero would change their icon.

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Known Nemesis as of 5-8-2012...

Heroes by Set - Villain (set they come from)
History of/reason for rivalry

Core Game (C)
Absolute Zero - Unknown (?)

Bunker - Unknown (?)

Fanatic - Apostate (IR)
He claims to be her creator, challenging her world view and very purpose.

Haka - Ambuscade (Bonus Villain Character)
Ambuscade is a big game hunter, who views superheroes as the biggest game of all.  He feels that the great and ageless warrior Haka is the greatest trophy of them all.

Legacy - Baron Blade (C)
Family rivalry going back generations

Ra - The Ennead - A group of 9 rival Egyptian gods (IR)
Two-fold rivalry...first the host bodies of these ancient gods are rival archeologists and second these ancient gods have been at war for hundreds of years

Tachyon - The Matriarch (RC)
Estranged cousins with The Matriarch hating Tachyon for always being so succesful

Tempest - Grand Warlord Voss (C)
Tempest is a survivor from another planet that Voss conquered previously

The Visionary - Unknown (?)

The Wraith - Spite (RC)
The Wraith is protector of Rook City and Spite is its most deranged psychotic citizen

Rook City (RC)
Expatriatte - Citizen Dawn (C)
Snob elitist mother Dawn shunned super powerless daughter Expatriatte

Mr. Fixer - The Chairman & The Operative (RC)
Mr. Fixer is an everyday joe who has watched his neighborhood become corrupted and innocent people suffer.  The Chairman and his Operative are the power behind all that corruption.

Infernal Relics (IR)
The Argent Adept - Akash'bhuta (IR)

NightMist  - Gloom Weaver (IR)

Promo Hero
Unity - Unknown (?)

Villains with still unknown heroes
? - Omnitron (C)
? [Hints at a possible Chrono Ranger character] - Plague Rat (RC)

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