It's that time of the week again! Time to figure out how to unlock what (imo) is one of the most overpowered variants in the game!
I think it's a pretty good guess that it's gonna involve doing a bunch of damage. To non-hero targets, likely.
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It's not "Medico last-hits the villain (tested on Ambuscade with sentinels plus every Void Guard sentinel) while every other hero is incapped"
"Wait, i have to do WHAT to unlock that? How the heck did the community figure THAT one out?"
It's not likely to be to deal X amount of damage in a turn. I played a game on Insula Primalis with Legacy, Ra, Parse, Naturalist and Medico.
Long story short, Flare Up on Medico did Ambuscade's entire health bar with enough Critical Multiplier from Parse.
Unless 60 damage in one hit isnt enough, it's not "Deal X damage in one turn."
Shoot.
"Wait, i have to do WHAT to unlock that? How the heck did the community figure THAT one out?"
I’d suggest either ‘Dr Medico deals more damage than he heals’ or ‘Win a game where Dr Medico heals no damage and deals the final blow’.
Its also possible that fighting Skinwalker Gloomweaver is a requirement as well...
I’m not too sure about that. The other Void Guard unlocks have been mechanics-focused. It’d be weird to switch midway to story unlocks, right?
Perhaps - but arguably the other 2 we’ve had so far don’t have obvious story fights specifically related to the varient in the same way.
Last night in the Discord, people were saying defeat Skinwalker Gloomweaver with Dr. Medico on the team. He must not be incapacitated and cannot deal the final blow. Then Dr. Medico destroys Re-Volt.
The first part works, but I just killed Re-Volt and nothing happened, so I guess that's not it.
Defeated Skinwalker in Freedom tower. Dr. Medico did more damage than he healed. He did more damage than he jad hit points at the end. He delt the final blow. No unlock. Will try again without dealing the final blow, but I am skeptical.
Reading through the Discord chat, people have gotten condition 1 for the achievement in games where Medico both has and hasn't dealt the final blow to Skinwalker Gloomweaver.
So I'm guessing you just gotta win a game against Gloomweaver with Medico on the team? They say anything about him healing/not healing in those games?
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Beat Skinwalker Gloomweaver) didn't deal final blow with Medico) then beat Revolt with Medico.
2nd game: https://pastebin.com/ubGjZja5
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Nothing conclusive about a threshold for healing or damage dealing. Not healing at all during the game isn't a condition.
Guess this isn't super useful now that there's an unlock, but I tried doing lots of different instances of damage to villains with dr Medico, and unsurprisingly given what we know now, no unlock.
How do I check if I've unlocked the first condition?
I mean i spent the last several hours doing various amounts of damage to varying targets.
Again, suppose not too useful anymore, but i can confirm that it is NOT killing X amount of targets, nor doing more damage than healing, nor winning a game with 0 healing from Medico where he deals the last blow.
Guess i'm playing Gloomweaver.
"Wait, i have to do WHAT to unlock that? How the heck did the community figure THAT one out?"
Hmm, I gues we have a possible theory for the unlock conditions then?
Defeat Skinwalker Gloomweaver with Dr. Medico on the team. Afterwards in Vengeance mode, Dr. Medico must defeat Revolt on his turn.
Edit: I don't have the cards in front of me right now; What is Malpractice Medico'spower again?
Failure. Used Unhallowed Halls and Twist the Ether to carefully regulate Gloomweaver's damage output and make sure Medico got the final blow with Second Opinion in both phases (I know now that it doesn't matter, but I started this game right after the variant became available). Medico did deal a lot of damage with Cosmic Weapon, but only healed for one point ever. Greatest Legacy also healed Visionary for 1, and then healing became impossible for the rest of the game.
Then, had Medico finish off Re-Volt.
So, assuming step 2 is as straightforward as it sounds, I did something wrong in step 1. Unfortunately, I'm on Android, so I can't check the registry directly.
Edit: I believe someone on Discord said they got the unlock by using Catch a Ride to have Medico kill Re-Volt, but just in case, I rewound and killed him with Second Opinion. Still no.
@Phantom5613: "Red Right Hand: Until the end of your next turn, whenever a Hero Target would regain HP, Dr. Medico instead deals 1 Target that amount of Energy Damage instead." Errata'ed to apply to only the first instance of healing per hero target.
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I don't think the first condition is quite that simple. I did that, and I just checked my registry and found no unlock condition.
edit: This is assuming I'm looking for the right thing. I have a variable named VoidGuardDoctorMedicoMalpracticeAvailable but nothing else that refers to him. I see other variables ending in things like UnlockCondition1, so I'm assuming that's what I'm looking for. If I'm wrong about that, then disregard this.
edit: nevermind
Do you have to destroy Re-Volt using Second Opinion (or while it's in play?)
McBehrer is the sole winner of this game... And McBehrer, I would step carefully should you find your way down dark alleys. More than one vote said simply, "McBehrer must die."
McBehrer confirmed to be Biomancer!
-- Trajector
Also, does it matter what environments you use?
McBehrer is the sole winner of this game... And McBehrer, I would step carefully should you find your way down dark alleys. More than one vote said simply, "McBehrer must die."
McBehrer confirmed to be Biomancer!
-- Trajector
So it appears I was indeed looking for the wrong thing. I just got the unlock so you can ignore my last post. I did manage to demonstrate that Dr. Medico needn't destroy Re-Volt on his own turn, as in my unlock he did it on writhe's turn. I suspect that the additional condition has something to do with heroes or doctor medico being at low health. My initial attempts were all early game, with relatively high health totals, whereas my success came toward the end of a losing game, with everybody low. Similarly, in the one other successful log I've seen, the heroes were also fairly low when the unlock occurred. No log unfortunately, since I jumped straight into another game before I remembered to post it. sorry about that.
No. I used Distorted Perception (Writhe hit Medico, who then hit Re-Volt)
not unless there are multiple choices. I used MDP, but the previous unlock used temple of ZL.
People are having luck just taking out Re-Volt with Medico however? Because I tried with Flare Up and got nothing, while a second attempt that used Second Opinion unlocked it.
It could just be that Second Opinion needs to have been in play at some point.
Can confirm that they don't need to be at low health to unlock as I stabilized with the Tempest/Second Opinion/Healing wave/Regeneration combo to bring everyone back to full before finishing off operative and stalling for re-volt to come back out. Got it with using sciamancy/cloak redirect from medico to kill revolt. Second opinion was in play for me.
Did you guys unlock it after killing Ambuscade or before?
I beat Skinwalker, KOed Re-Volt with Medico after killing Ambuscade.
No unlock, but not sure if step one or two.
"Wait, i have to do WHAT to unlock that? How the heck did the community figure THAT one out?"
Mine was before killing Ambuscade.
The second Skinwalker game I've had that didn't unlock condition 1. I healed more than 100 with Medico and did more than 50 damage. That was somebody's theory on the trigger.
https://pastebin.com/bWFqTAJV
How do you know if it unlocks condition 1?
McBehrer is the sole winner of this game... And McBehrer, I would step carefully should you find your way down dark alleys. More than one vote said simply, "McBehrer must die."
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-- Trajector
Ok, so, you DON'T need Second Opinion in play when you kill Re-Volt. Not sure what the extra stuff is, but I got it.
McBehrer is the sole winner of this game... And McBehrer, I would step carefully should you find your way down dark alleys. More than one vote said simply, "McBehrer must die."
McBehrer confirmed to be Biomancer!
-- Trajector
VoidGuardMalpracticeDoctorMedicoAvailable is not the same thing.
I'm just gonna take a shot in the dark here.
Defeat Skinwalker Gloomweaver. Void Guard Doctor Medico must deal h*10 damage and heal h*20 HP during the fight.
Then Void Guard Doctor Medico must destroy Revolt in a team match agaisnt Ambuscade. Second Opinion must have been played prior.
I'll put things in here later.
exactly. I was looking for something like VoidGuardMalpracticeDoctorMedicoUnlockCondition1 but all I saw was VoidGuardMalpracticeDoctorMedicoAvailable. However, I got the unlock, so that must be it.
Yeah. I not only didn't have it in play; I never drew it.
After reading through the logs it looks like defeating Revolt is the easy part of the equation. It is the first condition with SWGW that is the crux. I played several games and didn't get the conditioning and then just happened to get it and I have no idea why. Maybe I didn't deal enough irreducible damage previously. It is just not clear to me.
Just to clarify: in the registry is VoidGuardDrMedicoMalpracticeAvailable the entry for unlock condition 1? Because I have that and I have not fought SWGW with Dr. Medico.
The registry entry is VoidGuardDrMedicoMalpracticeUnlockCondition1. VoidGuardDrMedicoMalpracticeAvailable just means the variant exists to be unlocked.
I had a successful condition1 unlock this time. I went into the Skinwalker game with fewer heroes and sandbagged so Medico could do a lot of healing and damage.
https://pastebin.com/HT7xUJxT
I believe you, but that's strange. I was looking for precisely that entry, but couldn't find it. I then decided to try the second game anyway, and got the unlock. Weird.
Unlocked this morning, upon punching Re-Volt Out with Second Opinion. I had also punched out SWGW without losing anyone.
Medico later fell to Re-Volt after a deck shuffle.
Stupid Karma.
So, my supposition:
First, win a game against Skinwalker Gloomweaver with Void Guard Dr. Medico on the team. No heroes may be incapacitated.
Then, Dr. Medico must destroy Re-Volt through damage effects.
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Theres got to be more to it as I’ve done that and didn’t get the unlock...
First, win a game against Skinwalker Gloomweaver with Void Guard Dr. Medico on the team. No heroes may be incapacitated.
Then, Dr. Medico must destroy Re-Volt through damage effects while no heroe cards are incapicated.
I mean, I didn't do anything I wouldn't normally do with the good old doc, and he didn't damage anyone except ReVolt.
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I would have met that as well - not sure whether it was a problem with the first game or the second - I did have Medico defeat Skinwalker Gloomweaver (but I’m fairly sure people have said that they’ve got it with him defeating him and not defeating him).
Might be a certain amount of healing is required in the first game or some other condition we haven’t noticed yet...
Condition 1 with SWG is more complicated than that. I won sevral games against him and kept having to go back to the start with knocking out revolt and not getting the unlock.
Apparently Nyxious on the Discord got the unlock doing step one against Akash'Bhuta, so even Skinwalker isn't a prereq.
https://pastebin.com/rNtswcjv
https://pastebin.com/smKp9b1w
...That would explain why we haven't figured it out yet.
Maybe a long game is necessary for amount of damage healed/prevented?
Got the unlock. My winner was doing a game with TL Tachyon, Draw Power Wraith, Visionary, Parse, and Medico on Celestial Tribunal (for Gloom.) On the first environment turn, Representative of Earth gave me a Legacy to heal. Medico did a ton of healing, deliberately extended the game with Visionary's deck control (recycling zombies) and Twist the Ether reducing all villain damage by 2. Parse buffed Medico so he did one big hit. Medico did at least 80 damage and healed approximately 120 hp.
medico did not knock out Gloomweaver.
"Wait, i have to do WHAT to unlock that? How the heck did the community figure THAT one out?"
Got it!
Played a 3 hero game vs Skinwalker Gloomweaver in insular Primalus. Medico did a lot of healing and gave out quite a few powers. I didn’t deal very much damage to anyone other than himself (maybe one play of Flare up and the damage from Second Opinion once). Didn’t damage any other hero targets.
I’ll predict something like:
Win a game with Void Guard Dr Medico on the team. Dr Medico must heal at least 10 x hero damage and grant 2 x hero powers to other heroes. Then in a team game Dr Medico must destroy Revolt.
What do you mean by "10 x hero damage"? Do you mean heal 10 times more than the heroes deal put in damage? Than they take? The first is extremely unlikely, the second is I think impossible, as you can't heal up past their maximum.
I think FearLord means something as simple as "recover H times 10 HP." That was a metric someone else pitched before, and it was clear that that ALONE wasn't it, but "grant H times 2 extra powers" as an addition is certainly a new angle.
That makes sense. So (h) times 10
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