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A new challenge

Since there are certain villains that usually never flip when played against (at least in my experience), I decided to turn it into a challenge for anyone looking for somthing interesting to do in Sentinels. Unfortunatly, I only got a screenshot of one here because I didn't think I would turn it into a challenge at the time. For example, I played against Apostate, the Matriarch, Agent of Gloom Spite, Gloomweaver, Citizen Dawn, and Heroic Infinitor making sure to flip them each before winning.

As a side note, I only used villains already in the video game so that more people could participate.

 


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So you're saying defeat all villains having flipped them? I  almost always get Dawn flipped, same with Matriarch. Apostate and gloomweaver though... This sounds fun. It's on.


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The ultimate challenge: Baron Blade.


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Lord Flash Fire wrote:

So you're saying defeat all villains having flipped them? I  almost always get Dawn flipped, same with Matriarch. Apostate and gloomweaver though... This sounds fun. It's on.

I meant only the villains that don't usually flip during a normal game like the ones I listed but you could fight all of them if you wanted. As for Dawn and Matriarch you could make it a challenge to not flip them if you usually do, but I usually don't so the challenge would be the opposite for me.


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I've been thinking about doing something like this. Gloomweaver and Heroic Infinitor especially I almost never flip. Apostate, too, and Matriarch is up there (though I just generally try not to fight her anyway).

And then you have other challenges like "beat Spite without him flipping".

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What about ambuscade? I smell Visionary, two Infrared Eyepieces and change.

 


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What, you mean get him down to Final Dive/Sucker Punch HP, wait until he flips and then take him out? XD

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TakeWalker wrote:

What, you mean get him down to Final Dive/Sucker Punch HP, wait until he flips and then take him out? XD

Wrathful Gaze.  It's more flavorful that way.

 

 

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^This. No, I meant have him not flip. He always pulls out the whatever it is soon.

 


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Another fun one is defeating Deadline without him ever flipping.

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Oof, that's a rough one. Off the top of my head, I'd say that Dark Visionary and Argent Adept are needed, plus someone who can give either of them extra powers.

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The ultimate challenge: defeat Omnitron before he flips (you know, at the start of the first villain turn). Good luck.

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mightyschoop wrote:

The ultimate challenge: defeat Omnitron before he flips (you know, at the start of the first villain turn). Good luck.

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That would still be too late. 


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mightyschoop wrote:

The ultimate challenge: defeat Omnitron before he flips (you know, at the start of the first villain turn). Good luck.

Well, obviously stopping Omintron's first flip is literally impossible.  It is possible, however, to beat Omnitrion before it flips a second time (at least in the paper version; the correct characters/variants don't exist in the digital version yet).  Just play a four person team of FV Wraith, any Parse, standard Guise,and any character that can deal damage on the first turn (say, Ra).  Wraith uses her base power, Parse plays Critical Multiplier, Guise plays Uh, Yeah... I'm That Guy!, copying Critical Multiplier, then uses his power to play I Can Do That Too! to copy FV Wraith's power.  Then, when he draws for his turn, discard to make Wraith draw and give Ra a +1 damage.  Wraith draws, and discards to make Guise draw.  Repeat until Ra has +100 trillion damage, and Wraith and Guise have perfect hands, then let Ra unload on Omnitron.  Boom, fried robot.

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just.a.smith wrote:

 

mightyschoop wrote:
The ultimate challenge: defeat Omnitron before he flips (you know, at the start of the first villain turn). Good luck.

 

Well, obviously stopping Omintron's first flip is literally impossible.  It is possible, however, to beat Omnitrion before it flips a second time (at least in the paper version; the correct characters/variants don't exist in the digital version yet).  Just play a four person team of FV Wraith, any Parse, standard Guise,and any character that can deal damage on the first turn (say, Ra).  Wraith uses her base power, Parse plays Critical Multiplier, Guise plays Uh, Yeah... I'm That Guy!, copying Critical Multiplier, then uses his power to play I Can Do That Too! to copy FV Wraith's power.  Then, when he draws for his turn, discard to make Wraith draw and give Ra a +1 damage.  Wraith draws, and discards to make Guise draw.  Repeat until Ra has +100 trillion damage, and Wraith and Guise have perfect hands, then let Ra unload on Omnitron.  Boom, fried robot.

Unless Omnitron got a Drone out.
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mwc146 wrote:

 

just.a.smith wrote:
 mightyschoop wrote:
The ultimate challenge: defeat Omnitron before he flips (you know, at the start of the first villain turn). Good luck. 

 

Well, obviously stopping Omintron's first flip is literally impossible.  It is possible, however, to beat Omnitrion before it flips a second time (at least in the paper version; the correct characters/variants don't exist in the digital version yet).  Just play a four person team of FV Wraith, any Parse, standard Guise,and any character that can deal damage on the first turn (say, Ra).  Wraith uses her base power, Parse plays Critical Multiplier, Guise plays Uh, Yeah... I'm That Guy!, copying Critical Multiplier, then uses his power to play I Can Do That Too! to copy FV Wraith's power.  Then, when he draws for his turn, discard to make Wraith draw and give Ra a +1 damage.  Wraith draws, and discards to make Guise draw.  Repeat until Ra has +100 trillion damage, and Wraith and Guise have perfect hands, then let Ra unload on Omnitron.  Boom, fried robot.

Unless Omnitron got a Drone out.

 

No one said anything about *winning* before Omnitron's second flip, just killing Omnitron.  =P

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Well then you can kill the drone at your leisure. He can't flip if he doesn't exist.


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I like lists.

 

Defeated without flipping

Impossible
Omnitron
The Chairman
The Dreamer
Miss Information

Extremely Difficult
Baron Blade
Mad Bomber Blade
GloomSpite
Deadline
Kaargra Warfang
Ambuscade
Skinwalker Gloomweaver

Doable
The Matriarch
Plague Rat
Spite
Akash'Bhuta
La Capitan
Infinitor**
Progeny
Wager Master
Chokepoint
Cosmic Omnitron

Common Strategy
Citizen Dawn
Grand Warlord Voss
Apostate
Iron Legacy
Kismet***

Ridiculously Easy
The Ennead*
Gloomweaver
Heroic Infinitor

 

*The Ennead gets upgraded to "Doable" on Advanced
** Infinitor gets upgraded to "Extremely Difficult" on Advanced
*** I've never played with Unstable Kismet, so I have no idea where she goes.

 

These opinions, of course, are my own.  And there's some wiggle room, but I don't think I missed by more than a single category for any particular villain.


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Zombie Gloomy should also be in the Extremely Difficult category, providing you are putting Villains there for not flipping due to Unforgiving Wasteland, which is the only way I can see Blade happening, or impossible if not.


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Matchstickman wrote:

Zombie Gloomy should also be in the Extremely Difficult category, providing you are putting Villains there for not flipping due to Unforgiving Wasteland, which is the only way I can see Blade happening, or impossible if not.

Yeah, I completely forgot about the Skinwalker.  Yeah, Unforgiving Wasteland is the only way to deal with him or Blade.  But it is technically possible.

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Unstable Kismet will beat down the starting character with the highest health on one side (because they have the talisman).  On the other, she gives all the jinxes to the current highest health target.  Your choice here stands for that.

For me, for normal Kismet, I keep her on one side until she gets two or more jinxes.  Then I flip her every time.

 


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The statistics project now reports the probability of a villain being flipped at least once, and the probability of winning given that the villain did or did not flip.

However, there's a lot of reporting error.  For instance, in an amazing 46% of games in which Miss Information was not reported as having flipped, players said they won.  So take the data with a grain of salt when it comes to edge cases.

Also, regarding Unforgiving Wasteland, is there a ruling about that?  Because it seems to me it wouldn't work, because the character card is always in play before the environment card, so its trigger would occur first, leaving no "would have been destroyed" trigger for the second to act on.


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You can win without flipping a villain like Baron Blade due to Unforgiving Wasteland.  The precedent has been set in the video game.  


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MindWanderer wrote:

Because it seems to me it wouldn't work, because the character card is always in play before the environment card, so its trigger would occur first, leaving no "would have been destroyed" trigger for the second to act on.

The order of effects in general is decided by the players, except for start/end of turn effects (which occur in the order the cards entered play).


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